Posted: 11:51 pm Sunday, June 29th, 2014

Would you be mad at your husband if your child died in his care? 

By Theresa Walsh Giarrusso

I was very surprised to read in an AJC story last week that Leanna Harris, the mom of the toddler who died in the SUV, said she was not mad at her husband. I find that very odd.

I think you can support your husband. I think you can believe he did not do it intentionally. However, accidental or not, I think I would still be very upset and angry with my husband if my child died in his care. As I would expect him to be angry at me if something happened to our children in my care.

Here is the indirect quote and quote from the mother:

From the AJC:

By Christian Boone

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. — In her first public comments since her son died 10 days ago in the backseat of the family’s SUV, Leanna Harris said she is not angry at her husband, who listened by phone from Cobb County Jail.

“Ross was and is a wonderful father,” Harris said to the applause of about 250 mourners at the funeral of the couple’s 22-month-old son Cooper.

Ross Harris, charged with felony murder and second-degree cruelty to children, thanked those who have supported him since his arrest June 18.

 

The other thing that I am wondering about is that according to the warrants both parents searched for information about temperatures that would kill in a hot car. Could it be that they were just searching for new stories about other kids that died? If you Google searched “kids, die, cars” does that mean you were searching for stories about kids that died or searching for methodology?

From the AJC:

“The boy’s father told police he had searched online for information regarding temperatures needed for children to die inside vehicles because he was “fearful” it could happen, according to search warrant affidavits released Saturday.

Additional affidavits released Sunday state that Leanna Harris made similar statements. Police seized several electronics from the SUV and the couple’s Marietta-area condo, including an iPhone, iPad, a desktop computer, two laptops and a Google Chromecast digital media player, the warrants state.”

I am trying to think about things that I could have searched that could be misconstrued. I search crazy things for stories sometimes.

So these are things that are sticking in my craw.  I wondered if either of those things struck you guys as odd? Would you be mad if something happened to your child in the other parent’s care? What are things that you’ve searched that could look weird if someone took the time to look at your computer or phone?

60 comments
RealKat
RealKat

I didn't realize how quickly a body begins to stink after death. I don't know how long this kid suffered before dying, but apparently the smell was overwhelming. I didn't know that it happened so quickly.

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

Ed Garland says the dad's sexual escapades have nothing to do with murder.  Well, they do if they are part of motive, Ed.


In addition, even without that, the fact that dad strapped the boy in, kissed him,  did not go to daycare as he did every day, and "forgot" the kid moments later is the damning point.  Unless, in addition to being deaf and without smell, he also suffered severe memory loss?

NancyHolland
NancyHolland

I wonder if he did any web searches on the effect that sexting underage girls might have on a guy's marriage? 

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

I have made a bet with myself that she was the brains behind this. I guess we will see at the trial(s).  The prosecutors should not consider a deal until they know for certain she was not involved, and that seems unlikely, given her "he must have left him in the car" and "did you say too much"

anothercomment
anothercomment

My neighbor Doug accidentally left a 1/2 gallon of milk in his cat in this same area of town. Purchased at the Publix back of the Chick fillet. Our houses weren't much farther than the HD store support office. The milk fell out of the bag. By the next morning I was going over to Doug's house asking what died in his car did he hit a skunk. He opened it up, it was the milk which had exploded. Doug first tried to rinse it out to no evaluation. Next he took out the trunk carpet. Then he tried to spray it down. Still no avail. I told him she I got gas and it spilled over, the fire department used Palmalove dish washing detergent then used lotus of water. No that didn't work. Nothing worked. Why not, because it is a protein. Just like the proteins that secrete out of a dying body. Doug finally had to donate the car to Good will or one of the organizations that take used cars in any shape to repair them for veterans and just right them off.

I had a similar problem, when I had bible school driving duty, and a friend of mine her two children wanted to sit in the rear seat of my Volvo. They wanted milk after one day. They split in the back seat area. It stuck so bad. I could not get it all out. I went to Volvo and go new non carpet liner for the rear floors cost me $175 for my free deed. I told my friend, here children could not drink milk in my car only juice boxes or cokes. Milk and hot weather is not compatible. Not when you are ferrying around 6 kids as the non working mother, for all the working mothers ( with no gas or even lunch money). I had to bed for diapers and remind them I didn't have boys changes of clothes, so please provide.

He smelled the child, when ,he opened up the door at lunch. He deliberately parked to only have a person on one side. He probably picked a person that never goes out to lunch.

Let us all pray that he gave the child a strong dose of Benadryl, tylenol PM, or a sleeping pill, to make this a little less dreadfully.

anothercomment
anothercomment

I would be doing the Lorna bobbit on this guys junk, for his sexting while frying my child.

I would have walked out of the courtroom today and hired the top defense attorney/ divorce attorney combo. ( they work at the same office at Phil Gingrey's daughter). I would tell them to file for a divorce, I have suffered from battered women's syndrome. I have been in fear of my life and my sons from my husbAnd I have been a virtual prisoner. I have been suffering from a cult member complex from that church of Christ and their loony toon beliefs that I must be subservient. My husband tries to make me a sex slave and is deviant. The hearing today, woke me up that he is doing this to other woman woke me up. She is requesting a Grant of full ammunity for prosecution to testify, how he planned this out and tried to coheres her into covering up for him. How being married was holy hell. She will testify in order to help secure the death penalty for him. She will turn over any and all information she has.

lvg
lvg

Both are guilty. Mother's comments about son being in a better placee went much further when she talked about all the heartaches of life he would not have to suffer. This was planned.

LilburnLady
LilburnLady

Would I be mad at my husband? I know I would have a lot of questions for him.  People say bizarre things when overwhelmed with grief, so her words at a funeral are not clear evidence of anything at this point.  The whole "I forgot the kid in the car for seven hours", I do not buy.

1) Dad has a routine of dropping the kid off before going to work, but on this morning, he drives right past the daycare.

2) Let's say that Dad truly forgot to drop him off....why didn't he go to daycare to do the pickup?

3) When Dad does discover the child and pulls over, he tells the people who try to help, that the child was "choking".  However, when the child is pulled out of the car, he is in full rigor and his skin is grey, obviously, he has been dead for hours, Dad must realize he was never dropped off at daycare at that point, so why would he was choking?

4) First responders on the scene state that the smell inside the car was horrific even after the child was removed.  Why didn't Dad notice the smell when he first got inside the car and drove away? 

5) What parents don't communicate with each other and/or the daycare during the day?  It seems odd that a mother of a 22-month-old would not ask Dad about the child at some point during the day.

historywriter
historywriter



You can't know how grief in a situation like this will affect someone.  A mother has lost her child.  Every part of her life as a mother and wife is being  scrutinized. Her relationship with her husband is being challenged in ways we can only imagine.  Her husband admitted guilt.  And appears stunned by his guilt.  They are both so innocent they keep telling the truth about themselves.  The question isn't whether he killed the child---he did it.  The question is, was it an accident or murder?


Murder to what end?  So far, no motivation has been given.  The only evidence cited is that both of these parents admitted they were worried about leaving their child in a car and looked up the information online. This woman's life is being ripped apart.  She's trying to find any path to justify her child's death and says what all conservative, Alabama Christians say, "At least he's not going to suffer in this life anymore."  And this column is judging whether she's "acting guilty"?  Everyone is twisting these young parents' lives into something it may or may not be, but, so far, everything that's happened does sound normal for parents who are terrified of their new life created by mistakes made.  And by the horrific loss of their child through possible negligence.  You see, whether it's murder or not, this man will always be guilty of a child's death, and they both know that. 


Spending your time imagining whether you'd be angry at your husband for doing the same seems just a bit sensational to me. And spending your time wondering if this couple is celebrating the death of their child is useless. The better question is, are you angry and scared when you or your husband doesn't use good safety measures?  If you are, then maybe you need to be working on that with him.

ComaToes
ComaToes

She seems to be making this very ordinary and simplistic doesn't she?   Very strange (or is it) that she does not seem to be too upset about it at all. The fact that one of them researched this is very telling, but the fact that both did is downright "damning".  The other naive "idiots"(sorry but they are) were the ones in the church who applauded him when he called in to the funeral. They will soon be feeling as "dumb" as those who signed the petition with a knee-jerk reaction (like BO ya know) and donated money.

OKAY, now I have to stop this and do some research on how long it takes for a cow to die if I hit one tomorrow on my way through some rural territory. It just could happen, so have to be prepared.  I know, stupid huh?

catmom-scout
catmom-scout

I remember when I was in elementary school--probably 2nd grade or so--and one of my classmates was late to school one day. We were talking later, and she said that her dad had driven all the way to his office and had forgotten she was in the backseat until they got to the office and she asked why they were stopping there.

TheOldMan
TheOldMan

Well, this isn't a case where you can judge because neither of the parents is normal.  I think this is going to turn out to be some kind of religious nuttery when its all said and done, so anything coming out of her mouth is going to be Stepford wivish at best. 


Personally, I don't think having an accident happen to a child is prima facie evidence of bad parenting.  Can you find an exact line?  Too many statistically unlikely yet remotely foreseeable accidents occur to blame every death on "bad parenting". I couldn't be angry at my wife because I know the kind of gross negligence that would have to happen for me to be angry is out of her character.  Yes, even if she left our 2 year old in a hot car.

RealKat
RealKat

Good grief, @Rory_Bellows When Theresa posted her original story, NO ONE (except you?) wanted to believe that it was anything other than a tragic accident. If Theresa didn't post anything on (what has become) a very big story here in GA (though I think because he's blonde/blue-eyed, he's getting TONS of attention), we'd find it odd and bring it up ourselves. Once information began coming out, it seems like a terrible situation has gotten worse.


Would I be angry/mad at my husband. Oh heck yeah! But, there is no one who I would want by my side to help me (and me help him) work through our grief. No one else would suffice.


If he leaves his browser history that available AND planned this, he's both a terrible parent and a terrible IT specialist.

MotorCity23
MotorCity23

I am appalled by this. First, I felt terrible that a dad may suffer this anguish for the rest of his life. Then, I read the statements the mother made at the funeral. That the little tiny baby would not have to go through awkward stages now, and that she wouldn't want to bring him back into this "broken" world. And when both researched deaths in note cars. There's not that much to research- people can die trapped in hot are very quickly, and you don't have to be a scientist to know that. 


On another note, I would find it hard to live with my husband every day if he had killed our child in any way, in any way- his fault or not. If he had gone to breakfast and then forgotten my child minutes after for seven hours, I  would find it extremely difficult to face him ever again. I hate to say that, but I have a baby, and that's how I feel. The idea of any harm coming to my child sickens me. 


This is a terrible story for anyone to read and have to conceive of. 

LookbeforeIleap
LookbeforeIleap

I acknowledge I don't have access to all the facts in the case of Cooper Harris.

I find it odd that BOTH parents would research the issue of child death left in a car unattended.

I find it even more odd that this event would happen so close to such research being conducted.

Did the parents research other issues related to accidental child death?

Poisoning, drowning, toasters in the bathtub, falling off a balcony?


There is nothing in the father's story that makes sense.

There is even less sense in the mother's reaction.


I suspect the authorities are playing it coy with information because they are planning on charging the mother as well.


Even if this is a case of accidental vs. intentional neglect, these two morons should be sterilized and prevented from ever bearing another child.

_KeepItReal_
_KeepItReal_

Words have lost their true meaning in our society.

"Mad" ... "Accident" ... "Mistake"

The above are just a few words used in reference to a CHILD left to DIE in a vehicle for 7 HOURS in metro HOTLANTA.

SMH

jarvis1975
jarvis1975

I guess that would depend on whether or not she and I had planned to kill the child; which is what I believe these two did.

AJCmomania
AJCmomania moderator

Rory I have no idea on his guilt or innocence but I do think any parent could accidentally leave a child in a car

April-01
April-01

I thought her statement that it had never occurred to her to be angry was odd. How could there not be anger.


I had a lot more to say, but I am really struggling with this. I can not even begin to imagine what this must be like. I try really, really hard not to judge others because we do not know all the facts. However, something about this makes me queazy.

Rory_Bellows
Rory_Bellows

Wait....You are questioning the wife's desire to support her husband when just 2 weeks ago, you blogged that this sort of "accident" could happen to any parent? That blog seemed to be sympathetic to the father. Now this?

Do you ever think things through before you post them?

anothercomment
anothercomment

Let's just say my cousin had her son Kyle murdered 20 years ago, by his 18 year old Girlfriend Heather who first tried to stage it like a suicide. I am 11 years younger than my cousin and babysat Kyle from an infant for the next 10-12 years. My cousin was divorced when he was 3 his brothers were 5 and and infant, because her husband had cheated and gotten is mistress pregnant. The mistress was an 18 year old daughter of a Mafia Donn. ( they remain very active in Northern cities). My cousin was called by the Maffia Don and told to divorce her husband so she could marry her husband. I spent every summer from age 11-16 babysitting my cousins 3 boys for about $10 a week the family rate ( she and her sister did the same thing in 1964-1969 after my mother almost died of child birth watching 4 stair step babies). My cousins children's called me momma as well. The oldest lived with me 7 years every summer while he worked on his Chemistry PHD and worked in a Chemistry Lab here in Atlanta .

True grief when you loose a healthy child is never that they are better off in heaven. Oh that is the most peaceful place on earth. You want your child with you. You want them here. You think of missing their wedding day, when you other children get married, when your other children have children you wonder what that child's children would have been like. When your nieces and nephews start tribute naming your dead child's name, one Kylie is enough, you can't bear to keep on hearing the name. After all there was just one Kyle, yours who was taken to soon.

You are the first one who wants the guilty party prosecuted. You are the first one who did not suspect you child committed suicide. You think the girlfriend is acting strange. You know your know that your child is not left handed so why would he stab himself with a knife in his left hand? Who would dare critique some grieving mothers funeral of her son? only the person who killed him. Who put the knife in his hand only the left handed girl friend.

How did my cousin cope? She had hit menopause when her 3 of 4 children was murdered. So after mourning by drinking for a year. She pulled her self together and became a foster parent. She wasn't going to take the easy kid. No she took the 13 year old Native American boy who had been to so many foster homes he never stayed more than two months. The kid who had been so abused in every way. Well she needed to prove to him that he could have a good home, so for four years she gave him, that two parent stable home. Until they took a transfer out of town.

OMM
OMM

I think grief has several stages so anger would be one that had to be explored and felt. A person may not share their grief in a public forum.

Internet searches can lead in many directions so I'm sure my browsing history would only make sense to me.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

"I am trying to think about things that I could have searched that could be misconstrued. I search crazy things for stories sometimes."


Everybody would be arrested "on suspicion of something bad" if cops did this. 


After watching "Bones" or "CSI" anyone searching for information on anything can look weird. 





FRMRTCHR
FRMRTCHR

None of us know what we would be like in such a situation unless it happened to us. But 'mad' seems a very weak word for this event.   And reaction also depends on the circumstances.  A good friend of mine dropped his only child,  a middle-school aged son off at a classmate's house to work on a project.  By the time my friend arrived home, 15 minutes away by car, his son was dead--killed by   this classmate over a petty squabble.  My friends were devastated but his wife did not blame her husband  He did nothing wrong.   They had spoken to the parents and had met on several occasions and nothing set off any alarms.  They  became very angry at the parents of the other child however as details emerged.   Not mad, by very angry.  These parents had moved several times to prevent people from knowing about their son's regular outbursts of anger and violence.   They did not disclose it at school even though there child had injured others previously in other school districts.  Juvenile records were sealed so there was nothing either of my friends could have found out.   Why blame the husband for something so far out of his control?

The story you are talking about is completely different.  We know only a little, but what we do no does not appear to indicate an accident.  And both searching for information about the time it takes to die in such circumstances sets off too many alarms to count.  Nothing about this story indicates it was an accident at all.

thekimmer
thekimmer

Would I be angry with my spouse?  I am sure I would be at some level but I don't think I would express that anger to the press.


I cannot yet come to grips with the incongruity of this whole thing.  On the one hand here is a man who was apparently a very loving, devoted father who had no motive that I am aware of to kill his son.  On the other hand is this web search thing and the lunchtime car visit.  I just don't know.  Perhaps they did the searches because they had a close call in the past.  I often wonder how many close calls there are that we never hear about because the parent remembered in time or it happened in cooler weather.


I just know that what I have learned from this case already is not to jump to conclusions either way.

iRun
iRun

"Mad" might be the wrong word.  I got mad at my husband when he told me he would pick me up from the airport and then didn't track the flight so he wasn't there when I landed.  I got mad at him when, after telling him not to let our son ride my very expensive road bike, he let our son take my very expensive road bike to camp.


If our son died under his care I would be completely distraught.  Whether or not that would ruin our marriage isn't something I can say because I cannot fathom it.  It's literally beyond my imagination.


I can say that after our son was born I went through some extreme anxieties about accidentally killing him.  The main one being I would be carrying him and trip and he'd go flying out of my arms.  It was probably a type of anxiety attack.  I'd actually be carrying him and I'd have this vision of it happening.  And it wouldn't be something simple like tripping and he'd slam to the ground, though that's bad enough.  It would be that he'd fly into the street just as a car went by.  Or I'd be on a pedestrian bridge over a train track and it would be that he was hurtle to the ground onto the tracks and a train was coming.


But I'd also have the same kind of "attacks" about me somehow answer the telephone while he was in the tub and he would drown.  


And I had one about him leaving the house and crawling into the street.


And I had one about forgetting him in a hot car all day.


Looking back this was probably a form of postpartum depression.  I mean these horrible anxieties were sometimes completely CRAZY.  And I was so terrified.


It's kind of amazing because now I almost never have them.  And, I am a mother with the longest apron strings I know.  You've probably seen my posts talking about how we let our son basically ride his bike all over the city of Atlanta.  He bikes to school.  He's got a LOT of independence.  The fact I went from this anxiety-ridden fearful new mother to all meh is a testament to how new parenthood affects the mind.  Hormones likely have an impact there.


About the only weird and crazy anxiety I have now is a drowning one.  I irrationally think my son's brain will take a hiatus when he gets near water and he's going to drown.  That recent story about the kid who drowned because he and his friends tied a shopping car to him to use him as an anchor while another kid got in the car and was pushed off a deck is an example of where, after reading about it, I went to my son to tell him about it and ask him not to do something like that with his friends.  And he looked at me like I was crazy and said, "Mom, I don't know if those kids were high or drinking but I would never do something like that.  I mean...physics."


Anyway, what I mean to say is I understand about how parenthood can make you crazy with fear.


And, following that, I also did lots of internet searches about these types of tragedies.  I would read about something in the paper and then do some googling.  Part of it was to see how these thing happened so I could avoid it or to reassure myself that I could never fall victim.  Part of it was that thing where when you're scared of something you actively seek out where it lives...perhaps to increase awareness.


I don't know.


But I could absolutely see these parents reading about a previous incident of a baby being left in a hot car and then looking into it.


I don't automatically assign guilt.  And, in this case, there's not enough information out there to make any kind of judgement.

RichardKPE
RichardKPE

When I was in college, a friend of mine was driving back to school with his dad.  His dad was sleeping in the passenger seat, and my friend fell asleep at the wheel.  When he woke up, his dad was dead.


So, if you're the mother in this case, what would be a "normal" emotional response to that?  Is there one?  Saying that we would be [insert emotion here] is probably too simplistic, and most likely dumbs down the conversation by turning a very gray question into a black and white one.

ecm1969
ecm1969

I am reserving judgement on the Cobb parents until the police conclude their investigation. However, two things struck me as particularly odd about this case. First, the only somewhat plausible explanation for the searches (other than a far more sinister one) is that maybe one of them had slipped up before and left the baby in the car, but only for a short time, and they were looking at the consequences. I admit, this is a quantum leap explanation, but.....it seems so horrible to deliberately plan an innocent child's death in such a nefairous way. Second thing that stuck out is how could you feed your kid breakfast and then forget that it's in the car for a less than 5 minute drive. These two facts completely threw some doubt into the story for me.

How would I feel if my child was injured while in hubby's care? Well, it would depend on if it was related to some negligence on his part. If it was because of something he reasonably could have prevented, then heck yes, initially I would be livid. I think time and prayer and love hopefully help us move to forgiveness, but in a situation like a child being left in a car, I know I would be a jumble of emotions. Angry, hurt, devastated, shocked, etc. all mixed up. I can't judge this woman for standing by her husband, but I will say she is far calmer and more collected than I think I'd be in a similar situation.

motherjanegoose1
motherjanegoose1

Over twenty years ago, I taught with someone who had this experience:  a brother took his six year old son to a Braves game.  They were walking back to the car and the little guy wrestled free from Dad's hand and walked into the street...to be hit by a car.  He was killed.  It really made me see how quickly things could happen.  So sad. 


I remember being nervous when my husband took our son to the Olympics.  


Recently, we were on the train at Hartsfied.  A man scooted in , at the last second, with one son. Both were under 7 or 8.     The other one looked on frantically as the door closed.  Everyone froze.  The man said STAY RIGHT THERE!  My 22 year old daughter was upset for days about it and we talked about how quickly things can happen and how we need to stick together in crowds.  I remember taking her and a friend to NYC and being adamant about it.  They were 16 and had cell phones but it was so noisy, I feared we could not hear them if they rang.  You cannot live under a rock but you have to think about safety.  


I just read a post about taking your left shoe off and putting it in the back seat next to anyone in a car seat.  This way you would look back there to get your shoe.  Sounds reasonable to me.  

TechMom1
TechMom1

I agree with @Wascatlady, you can forgive if it's an accident once you get over the initial shock and grief but it's a whole different ball game when there is intent. And it sounds like it was there for both parents. 


I really cannot wait for the trial to begin so we can hear all the evidence. I too was shocked when they first arrested the dad (what a tragic event for those parents who do accidentally leave a child in the car) but I figured there had to be so much more to it then we were hearing. 

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

The truth will eventually come out.  It is hard to imagine it was an accident, not with the searches and the breakfast and the one mile travel.


My husband was angry at me when our son was so critically hurt--died and was brought back--until he finally realized it would have happened if he had been standing there as easily as I was.  I was angry at me, too; how had I not foreseen the freak accident?  OUr job as parents is to protect our kids from harm.


The truth is unless the death is the result of negligence (leaving a kid in a car) or misbehavior (drunken driving) I think you can get past the anger and hurt of something happening to your child.


With these people, the evidence the police cite does not make their case look favorable for an "I forgot" defense.

cobbmom5
cobbmom5

My husband wants to take our children to a local event that carries a high risk of violence breaking out.  I told him there won't be any pieces of him big enough to identify if he takes our children and one gets hurt.

Apparently these people were more willing to commit murder than to live with the "shame" of giving the child up.  After breakfast he drove less than one mile to his job, that is one-two minutes to "forget" the child was in the car.  I'm not buying either one's story.

Motheroftwins
Motheroftwins

I would be angry with anyone who was supposed to be responsible if my child were to die or suffer from a serious injury while in their care. 

anothercomment
anothercomment

Them both doing these searches just don't make sense. As my daughters said today, what normal parents would look up something like that.

Then is comes out that she is a nutritionalist, what person with this type of job that claims they had trouble getting pregnant lets their husband take their beloved child. A bag of Cheerios whole grain cereal in a bag with a sippy cup of 2% milk is a much more nutritious breakfast that Chickfillet . Unless this was a preplanned last supper.

Her eulogy, that she would not even want to try to have the baby back. That he would be free from any future troubles in middle school and high school where she was not treated well. He was better often in heaven than this cruel world. " How about better off with just a different family's that weren't t nuts and crazy religious zealots that belonged to a cult church.

They both need to be charged by the time this is over. The priest or minister should do the eulogy of your relative not a greasing relative. I am sure the Marietta police have gotten it all on tape, from Mrs. Bubba.

mistyknapp
mistyknapp

What bothers me is this isn't accidental, BOTH searched for temperatures needed to kill in a hot car. I'm glad he isn't given bond. Plus, he took the child to breakfast and then conveniently forgot about him.

DBOrig
DBOrig

I don't think she should be held responsible for anything coming out of her mouth at this point. Shock, grief, denial, and the exhaustion of a media circus would turn any normal, intelligent, reasonable people into babbling heap of goo

RealKat
RealKat

@anothercomment Having his lunch friends have to stop him by the car so he could put something into his car (knowing the child was there) makes him seem like "Well, I wouldn't have intentionally murdered my kid; why would I bring my friends anywhere near my car?" 

historywriter
historywriter

Well, the indictment in ongoing, and it does appear that the father is an extremely troubled and troubling person.  Intentional or not is up to the courts, but his mind was definitely not on caring for his child.  Horrible death, and a horrible place this man's mind appears to have been in.

_KeepItReal_
_KeepItReal_

I have done some crazy internet searches. I have a teenager, so I have researched making meth from over the counter allergy pills. This is just ONE of the MANY criminal things I have put into a search engine. You need to be a top investigator these days with teenagers and young adults. I don't worry about my searches because I have no intent on making homemade drugs, endangering the lives of others, or commuting a crime.

I never had a fear of leaving my children in a hot car - especially me or the wife forgetting them for seven hours in HOTLANTA. Even as several if my kids have left home, I am constantly thinking about them during the day. That's being a PARENT - your RESPONSIBILITY never ends. I am appalled at the "accident" and "mistake" verbiage also. Are your children ACCIDENTS or MISTAKES?

I am most bothered by a still functioning site for donations to these two parents to be used at their discretion. Over 22k has been donated to be used at the discretion of these former parents. Home Depot paid for the funeral. WHY is the site still UP and asking for money?

Rory_Bellows
Rory_Bellows

@AJCmomania Only the bad parents are capable. Are you capable of this type of mistake?

I mentioned this two weeks ago and it seemed to fly over everyones attention span.

What if a child dies while the parent was driving intoxicated? Certainly, thhe would not have meant to kill the child. What is the difference? Bad people do bad things, including parenting. To excuse any of it as an acceptable accident is absurd and sickening.

WasDenise
WasDenise

Have you never changed your opinion based on additional facts presented?  It's not a stretch to feel differently  for a man who lost his son (sad) than for a man who researched how to kill him (angry).  (I know I'm simplifying and making assumptions but I'm trying to make a point, not arguing the totality of facts of this particular case.)

_KeepItReal_
_KeepItReal_

When the story came about that she had gone public with the strange and twisted eulogy, my wife quipped "silence is golden and duct tape is silver". People seem to be there own worst enemies when the media is involved. The innocent and the guilty should refrain from talking. NO COMMENT ... period ... as anything you say can and will be used against you, in the court of public opinion and in the legal courtroom of justice.

mistyknapp
mistyknapp

DBoring,

She admitted to searching for temperatures needed to kill. She's just as guilty.

lvg
lvg

@RealKat @anothercomment Next will be the Casey Anthony excuse that he was molested as a child or that he was  insane due to lack of sex because the child kept sleeping in the parents bed..

RealKat
RealKat

@MostlySunny I suppose it makes sense if the husband is not working (obviously) and the wife were a (true) victim in this situation - money to live on and for an attorney for her (idiot) husband. I sure wouldn't donate though.

WasDenise
WasDenise

Any site for donations should be used for funerals or legal fees only.  I'm suspicious of anything for use "at their own discretion".  Not that I'm ever donating to these kinds of funds.  I can feel sorry for someone without giving them my money.  I have enough uses for it in my own life to use at MY discretion.

DBOrig
DBOrig

@mistyknapp I am reserving judgement -- mostly because I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that a mother and father could conspire to kill their two-year-old. I know it happens with sad regularity -- there are sick people out there.  I don't know if it's just an awful coincidence or premeditation -- I guess a jury will figure that out. I just know that there are PLENTY of internet topics that I've searched that would make people go, "whhhhaaaaaatt?", not to mention links that I have clicked on both deliberately and accidently. Meanwhile, there are no winners in this situation.  

motherjanegoose1
motherjanegoose1

@mistyknapp Iaughed when I read : DBoring....as it looked like boring to me and I can tell you that DB is anything but...since I have had lunch with her several times and even a trip to Chicago.  Perhaps it is just the way things typed out when you commented!  

RealKat
RealKat

@lvg @RealKat @anothercomment I expect we'll be hearing about that too, yep. Another blog has more of the text of her funeral speech. They are insinuating (oddly, in my opinion) about the child's full lips meaning something of a sexual nature. I don't know about that, but I'm sure the police are looking at the oddities involved in her speech as well.

WasDenise
WasDenise

I am talking about your judgment of Theresa, not your own opinion.  She had sympathy for the guy when it looked like an accident and is now more suspicious since more details are coming to light.  My point is that it is not a stretch to change your opinion as more information is learned.

Rory_Bellows
Rory_Bellows

@WasDenise Even if it is an accident, he is still a bad parent. How can you think otherwise. Why is it you do not understand this?

motherjanegoose1
motherjanegoose1

I really thought it was funny and not intentional. Kind of like auto correct. It's all good. DB might get a kick out of it too!

WasDenise
WasDenise

At what point in this conversation did I give you MY opinion of him?  I'm rereading all of my comments and I see NOTHING that indicates how I feel about this guy.

I'm going to disengage now because you have no interest in seeing anything other than your opinion, not what I am actually saying.